Chief Change Officer™
Change is already working on you. Could you make it work for you?
Chief Change Officer™ is a podcast for people who want to turn change into a breakthrough. It is for those reshaping a career, redirecting an organization, or rebuilding a life.
The show is hosted by Vince Chan, whose first lesson in change came at age four, after a severe arm injury led to surgery, hospitalization, and a long recovery. Since adolescence, she has lived through 20 major transformations across countries, careers, and crises. Before launching the podcast, she spent three decades in global finance and economics, from central banking and credit markets to billion-dollar institutional capital.
That experience taught her that change is never only personal. Markets shift. Institutions decide. Circumstances expand or narrow what people believe is possible. Talent matters, but so do context, timing, and power.
Vince brings together rare minds, black sheep, breakthrough builders, and unconventional champions from around the world. They include scholars who have spent decades studying people and institutions, executives who have carried responsibility through uncertainty, and leaders whose most valuable knowledge was earned beyond the clean lines of a textbook.
Together, they bring what Vince calls hard-earned human intelligence: judgment shaped by consequence and tested by time, trial, and revision.
They do not offer polished success stories or textbook formulas. They reveal what helped when plans collapsed, careers broke open, or life demanded a new direction.
Each conversation turns hard-earned human intelligence into practical judgment: how to understand what is changing, make stronger decisions, and move forward without losing yourself.
Chief Change Officer™ extends Vince’s work beyond markets and institutions into the human side of power and change. How people understand themselves, navigate their environment, and reclaim agency when the old rules no longer hold.
A Global Top 1% podcast and US #1 Careers show, Chief Change Officer™ is built for people who do not want merely to endure change. They want to understand it, use it, and turn it into a breakthrough.
Life is change. The question is whether change works on you, or you learn to make it work for you.
Chief Change Officer™
#425 Waverly Deutsch: Love and Logic—Building Businesses That Actually Work—Part One
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Waverly Deutsch doesn’t just coach entrepreneurs—she translates English to English, reframes stories with strategy, and helps even the most logic-trained professionals tap into their conviction. In this three-part series, we walk through her unusual path from consulting to Chicago Booth to founding WyseHeart, her pitch strategy firm.
Each episode reveals a new dimension of her journey: the personal (Part 1), the academic and instructional (Part 2), and the entrepreneurial, including her bold take on how to co-exist with AI (Part 3). Across every chapter, Waverly models what it means to coach with both love and logic—bringing clear frameworks to messy human dreams.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
The Computer Scientist Who Loved Shakespeare
“I’ve always had a foot in both worlds—logic and emotion, code and creativity.”
How Waverly’s dual passions for computer science and theatre shaped her approach to business.
The Pivot Into Entrepreneurship
“I didn’t want to write code anymore. I wanted to solve problems worth solving.”
Why she left tech to help build a startup—and never looked back.
Real Lessons, Not Just Case Studies
“Harvard cases are great, but I wanted to teach with my own stories.”
How she built her curriculum at Booth from lived experience.
Founders Aren’t Born
“They’re shaped by experience, community, and the right mindset.”
What makes someone capable of starting—and sustaining—a business.
Emotion Belongs in the Room
“Business is about people. If you’re not teaching that, you’re missing the point.”
Why she teaches soft skills just as seriously as finance and ops.
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Waverly Deutsch
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