Chief Change Officer™
Change is already working on you. Could you make it work for you?
Chief Change Officer™ is a podcast for people who want to turn change into a breakthrough. It is for those reshaping a career, redirecting an organization, or rebuilding a life.
The show is hosted by Vince Chan, whose first lesson in change came at age four, after a severe arm injury led to surgery, hospitalization, and a long recovery. Since adolescence, she has lived through 20 major transformations across countries, careers, and crises. Before launching the podcast, she spent three decades in global finance and economics, from central banking and credit markets to billion-dollar institutional capital.
That experience taught her that change is never only personal. Markets shift. Institutions decide. Circumstances expand or narrow what people believe is possible. Talent matters, but so do context, timing, and power.
Vince brings together rare minds, black sheep, breakthrough builders, and unconventional champions from around the world. They include scholars who have spent decades studying people and institutions, executives who have carried responsibility through uncertainty, and leaders whose most valuable knowledge was earned beyond the clean lines of a textbook.
Together, they bring what Vince calls hard-earned human intelligence: judgment shaped by consequence and tested by time, trial, and revision.
They do not offer polished success stories or textbook formulas. They reveal what helped when plans collapsed, careers broke open, or life demanded a new direction.
Each conversation turns hard-earned human intelligence into practical judgment: how to understand what is changing, make stronger decisions, and move forward without losing yourself.
Chief Change Officer™ extends Vince’s work beyond markets and institutions into the human side of power and change. How people understand themselves, navigate their environment, and reclaim agency when the old rules no longer hold.
A Global Top 1% podcast and US #1 Careers show, Chief Change Officer™ is built for people who do not want merely to endure change. They want to understand it, use it, and turn it into a breakthrough.
Life is change. The question is whether change works on you, or you learn to make it work for you.
Chief Change Officer™
#410 Sande Golgart: Climbing the Wrong Mountain — Part Two
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After decades of chasing external wins, Sande Golgart decided to stop running. In Part Two, he shares the uncomfortable, intentional work of stepping back—what it took to unplug from achievement addiction and start redesigning a life that fits from the inside out.
This isn’t a story about reinvention through ambition. It’s a blueprint for growth through subtraction: less noise, more clarity; fewer roles, deeper connection; no hustle, just truth. From mending his marriage to redefining success, Sande opens up about what he calls “Life Peels”—and why letting go is the new way up.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Listening Over Learning
“I wasn’t trying to fix anything. I just got quiet and listened.”**
Sande explains how stepping back from self-optimization gave him the clarity he had missed for years.
The Life Peels Method
“David was always in the marble. Michelangelo just removed what wasn’t him.”**
He introduces his philosophy of growth by subtraction—peeling away the excess to uncover what truly fits.
When Growth Isn’t More
“I’ve had enough of strategy decks and hero stories. I want to feel ease in my own skin.”**
Why he redefined ambition not as stacking wins but as feeling aligned, grounded, and whole.
Relearning Partnership
“When the noise died down, we both realized we’d never had stillness before.”**
How the transition to an empty nest revealed unspoken gaps in his marriage—and led to new connection.
Letting Life Lead
“I used to control everything. Now I just pay attention—and things unfold better than I planned.”**
What happened when he stopped pushing for outcomes and started trusting the process.
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Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Sande Golgart
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