Chief Change Officer™
Change is already working on you. Could you make it work for you?
Chief Change Officer™ is a podcast for people who want to turn change into a breakthrough. It is for those reshaping a career, redirecting an organization, or rebuilding a life.
The show is hosted by Vince Chan, whose first lesson in change came at age four, after a severe arm injury led to surgery, hospitalization, and a long recovery. Since adolescence, she has lived through 20 major transformations across countries, careers, and crises. Before launching the podcast, she spent three decades in global finance and economics, from central banking and credit markets to billion-dollar institutional capital.
That experience taught her that change is never only personal. Markets shift. Institutions decide. Circumstances expand or narrow what people believe is possible. Talent matters, but so do context, timing, and power.
Vince brings together rare minds, black sheep, breakthrough builders, and unconventional champions from around the world. They include scholars who have spent decades studying people and institutions, executives who have carried responsibility through uncertainty, and leaders whose most valuable knowledge was earned beyond the clean lines of a textbook.
Together, they bring what Vince calls hard-earned human intelligence: judgment shaped by consequence and tested by time, trial, and revision.
They do not offer polished success stories or textbook formulas. They reveal what helped when plans collapsed, careers broke open, or life demanded a new direction.
Each conversation turns hard-earned human intelligence into practical judgment: how to understand what is changing, make stronger decisions, and move forward without losing yourself.
Chief Change Officer™ extends Vince’s work beyond markets and institutions into the human side of power and change. How people understand themselves, navigate their environment, and reclaim agency when the old rules no longer hold.
A Global Top 1% podcast and US #1 Careers show, Chief Change Officer™ is built for people who do not want merely to endure change. They want to understand it, use it, and turn it into a breakthrough.
Life is change. The question is whether change works on you, or you learn to make it work for you.
Chief Change Officer™
#409 Sande Golgart: Climbing the Wrong Mountain — Part One
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Before he became a coach and founder, Sande Golgart was addicted to acceleration. He said yes to every challenge, thrived in high-stakes boardrooms, and made a name for himself as a relentless performer. But behind the energy and accolades, something didn’t sit right.
In Part One, Sande retraces his early life as a dunk contest champion, his rise through the corporate ranks, and the moment he realized the game he was winning wasn’t one he wanted to keep playing. What started as hustle became habit. What looked like progress felt like pressure. And what came next was a reckoning.
Key Highlights of Our Interview:
Playing to Win—Even in a Suit
“I approached sales the same way I approached dunk contests: high energy, no fear, go all in.”
How a competitive spirit helped Sande rise fast—but also masked the cost.
Yes Man Syndrome
“I never said no. I didn’t even know what no sounded like.”
Why overcommitment isn’t ambition—it’s avoidance in disguise.
Movement as a Mask
“As long as I kept moving, I didn’t have to think. Stillness scared the hell out of me.”
When action becomes a coping mechanism, not a strategy.
The Wrong Summit
“You keep pushing for the top, then get there and realize… it’s not your mountain.”
Sande explains the disorienting moment that sparked his pivot.
Forgotten Self
“I knew my job title. I knew my revenue targets. But I couldn’t tell you what I liked.”
How busyness blurred his sense of identity—and what came next.
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